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I've been musing on the assumption that the Lib Dems would insist on Electoral Reform being a condition of joining a coalition and thinking how it would take place.

Just how would it take place? Would a form of Proportional Representation (PR) be introduced in time for a subsequent General Election, or would there be a Referendum on the matter? To my mind, putting the question to a Referendum would see PR off the agenda for decades as I can't see a scenario where an inherently change-averse population would vote in favour of something fundamentally different and outwardly more complicated. However, am I alone in finding the concept of a move to PR without a referendum somewhat distasteful?

Date: 2010-05-08 10:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] the-mendicant.livejournal.com
All the politicos that I've heard interviewed said there would only be a change after a referendum and that would only happen after there's been a cross party working group/enquiry into the matter. so its a long time off.

I feel split on the matter because whilst we all recognise the iniquity of the LibDems getting nearly a quarter of the popular vote and only a tiny fraction of the seats compared to Labour who only got 5% more, under true PR, we'd have seen UKIP getting 20 odd seats and the BNP getting 12 and do we really want that?

Date: 2010-05-08 10:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] moral-vacuum.livejournal.com
Which of course brings the argument "So you want proper democracy, but only for the right sort".

Cameron would lose the grassroots of his party if he agreed to PR.

Date: 2010-05-08 10:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] whotheheckami.livejournal.com
*nods* Yes, any form of PR would let minority/extreme parties have seats and Parliament would carry on working. You could get situations where the extreme left or right were "kingmakers" in a coalition. However, the centre parties would always have the option of working together to form moderate coalitions. Do you remember how we used to drive through the South East of Belgium where all the roads were perfect? They were an independent, but moderate power bloc who joined whatever coalition favoured their area. The mainstream parties supported them because it allowed them to "freeze out" the extremists.

Date: 2010-05-08 10:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] the-mendicant.livejournal.com
Now I have visions of all the roads in LibDem constituencies being perfectly maintained :P

Date: 2010-05-08 11:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] whotheheckami.livejournal.com
An interesting thought, but under PR the LibDems would be one of the major parties offering roads to the smaller parties - just think how many Opera Houses and Assembly Buildings the Welsh could build ;@)

Date: 2010-05-08 11:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] whotheheckami.livejournal.com
Fear the prospect of t'Yorkshire Party!

Date: 2010-05-08 11:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kissmeforlonger.livejournal.com
There would be one, no doubt about it! Probably several, in fact, all arguing about the right way to go about it ;-)

Date: 2010-05-09 12:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] whotheheckami.livejournal.com
And how tough things were before t'party :@)

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